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Zaca Fire From A Bird's Eye

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Zaca Fire helicopter pilot Desiree Horton takes a moment before returning to 16 hour shifts to describe her activities as part of a combined assault on the mile wide flame front heading towards Hwy 33 on Friday the 17th;

….A combined effort of the helicopters throwing fire from the dozer lines to burn towards the flame front, the water drops to stop the spots, and the ground guys who are the real heroes and in the most risky business of all slowed the fire that day. Every time a spot would cross over the line, guys on the ground would come in and attack the fire by hand, digging line around it and doing what they do down there. I even saw dozers run line right next to the spots, and these spots I’m talking are huge, taller than the dozer. I can only imagine the heat. While we flew next to the fire to throw psd balls down to stop it coming towards the line the heat was so intense even from the air. It was amazing to watch all of the ships but mostly those crews on the grounds with only their safety zones cut out by dozers to take shelter if the fire jumps the line and heads their way. The chills I experienced were from the satisfaction of getting into some risky areas and throwing fire to fight fire. It was truly amazing…..” Continue reading at Desiree’s Copter Chick blog.

Thank you Desiree, your unique perspective is an amazing contribution to the Zaca Fire story.

Pivital Day For Zaca Fire Teams

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These images come from the Southern California Wildland Fire Hazard Center. The maps show favorable (flat) winds this morning however winds will increase steadily throughout the day from the West pushing from 8 to 18 MPH.

August 20 9:00 am

August 20 5:00 pm
Fire Location; Lat: 34° 46´ 45″ Long: 120° 5´ 24″
(Just above the two Channel Islands on the left side of the map)

Zaca Fire perimeter map from August 19. Source SBCFire.

Zaca Fire Spots Over Hwy 33, Crews Chasing

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*UPDATE: Corrected 0600 hr 8/20 Zaca Incident command from ICS-209.

All other areas are open to residents. CORRECTION TO THE 8/19 #209 POSTED ON FAMWEB AT 1800 : FIRE HAS NOT MOVED TO THE EAST SIDE OF HWY 33 as stated in Block 33. “

(Revised acreage overnight grew to 214,725 acres)


The following data is taken from Incident 209 report and narrative from Santa Barbara County Fire.

Size/Area
Involved
199,588 ACRES
Projected Final Size:
236,578 !! (this will be revised)
Estimated Costs
to Date
$83,207,380
% Contained
or MMA
75 Percent
Injuries
to Date:
30
Growth Potential – Extreme
Difficulty of Terrain – Extreme

“Firing operations were proceeding well today along Pendola road and the Hildreth Jeepway but were suspended for safety’s sake due to unfavorable winds, however firefighters held the existing fire line.
Spot fires have occurred on east side of Hwy 33 at Pine Mountain Ridge and aggressive suppression action with air tankers, helicopters and ground forces is ongoing. Firefighting conditions were very dangerous today in several areas. Strong winds, high temperatures, low, low humidity and the blazing hot sun all combined and increased the intensity of the fire as it pushed up slopes and canyons, especially when they aligned with the wind. Flame lengths again today exceed 100 ft. in spots, as the fire consumed the the thick bed of heavy brush.
In the Richardson Zone* the fire is still trying to push itself to the east and northwest. There are concerns that due to Fire Weather Watch and the possibility of a Red Flag Warning the Fire could grow significantly. Firing operations have kept the fire north of the Ogilvy Ranch road. In the Ventura Zone* firefighters are gaining access through private lands as they prepare contingency lines and will continue to improve the existing fuel breaks, safety zones and interconnect the existing fuel breaks as needed.”

Smoke and ash is affecting people in Ridgecrest as discussed on Panamint Charlie and has entered Death Valley. Satellite images show the smoke approaching Las Vegas.
maybe Hurricane Dean will finally put the Zaca Fire out.

Gov. Declares State Of Emergency For Ventura County

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It’s a safe bet Governor Schwarzenegger’s office is getting the skinny on the Zaca Fire when others are finding it difficult to get the whole story. Inciweb.org has been down all day today so maps and “official” information is hard to come by.

Inciweb is a government operated website that act as a repository of information on large fires nationwide.

Incident commanders or their team members upload reports to Inciweb twice daily so the general public can better understand what is happening on the ground. When Inciweb goes down it’s time to put the ear to the ground or start reading tea leaves.

Maybe the Governor’s people read this quote by a fire official earlier today;

“It’s growing, and it may become the granddaddy of them all before this is over with,” Maeton Freel, a fire information officer with the U.S. Forest Service told the Ventura County Star.” LATimes

I’m looking at satellite image loops and what I am seeing is a fire with three distinct heads on a clear path NE towards Kern County through Ventura County.

Run this Image Loop and see for yourself. I’m told most of the smoke plumes are the result of firing operations so I’ll go with that until something else confirms my worst thoughts.


To appreciate the terrain confronting firefighters here is a photo of the Romero Canyon area in the general area where the fire is burning on the Southwest front of the Zaca.

Image credit SB-Outdoors.

Zaca Fire Advances Into Ventura County

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Firing operations from Highway 33–

Highway 33 between Wheeler Gorge and Ventucopa has been closed except to local traffic only.
“Beginning at 10:00 am on Sunday, August 19th , this section of Hwy 33 will be closed to all traffic, including residents. The closure is required to safely conduct a backfire operation planned along Highway 33 from the Pine Mountain Road to Ozena. Travelers on Hwy 33 will continue be impacted while firefighters conduct firing and suppression operations and to secure the firelines on the eastern perimeter of the fire….”

Full Zaca Fire discussion available Santa Barbara County Fire.

Sundowners, Santa Barbara's Santa Ana's

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One class from my fire academy days that stuck in my head through the years was unique California wind phenomena that included discussion of So Cal’s. Santa Ana’s, Chinook or East winds in the N/E part of the state and Sundowners in Santa Barbara.

The instructors showed the class a video of dozer operators being overrun when a sundowner developed without warning. I don’t recall the fire name or the extent of injuries I only remember how fast the crews were overrun.

Not much has been made of the the potential of such an event (publicly) from the Zaca Fire base but surely they are aware of the potential and keeping a keen eye.

I found a site that explains the sundowner phenomenon and it’s a fascinating read.

The paper points to a sundowner fire that occurred in October 1971 below Romero Saddle that burned into and through Romero Canyon — just SE of where the Zaca is headed.
According to the paper the Romero Saddle is one of three wind gaps in the Sana Ynez Range that invite the downhill wind.

With the area being squeezed by low pressure forming North and SE, (note image from an earlier post today) sundowners and the potential for deadly wind intensifies.
Extended area forecast discussion found here.

Zaca Control Line Map

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The Zaca Incident Command posted this map to Inciweb last night. The massive head of the fire is less than 5 miles from the Ventura County line and approximately 15 miles from the outskirts of Ojai. Clicking the map enlarges details. Note the distance between the Richardson Fire Camp in the Cuyama Valley and the Live Oak Camp near Lake Cachuma.

(Credit: Zaca Fire GIS Section posted on Inciweb)

Weather won’t be a help for a few days it seems. If you run the animated loop you’ll see Ventura County is between two low pressure systems. Not good!

Weather Satellite


More animated satellite imagery here (press the animated link)

Zaca Fire Claims Spot In California Fire History

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The Zaca Fire has now climbed to number 5 (171,750 Acres) in the top 10 largest wildland fire list in California history surpassing the Matilija Fire that burned in the same general area in 1932. By the end of the day the Zaca Fire should be number 3 surpassing both the Laguna Fire and Marble Cone Fire (1977).

Next up then would be the Cedar Fire.

Devastating wildfires are nothing new to Santa Barbara County or Ventura County. Matilija, Day, Wheeler, now Zaca and another less publicized 1917 Matilija Canyon Fire that claimed the lives of residents near Ohai have occurred in the counties.

Great Fires in California History

  1. Great Fire of 1889, 800,000 acres.
  2. Cedar Fire 280,00 acres (15 fatalities 1 firefighter, 2,200+ structures)
  3. Marble-Cone Fire 178,000
  4. Laguna Fire 175,000 acres
  5. Zaca Fire 171,000+ (ongoing)
  6. Matilija Canyon Fire 163,000 acres (est.)
  7. Day Fire 162,000 acres
  8. Wheeler Fire 91,000 acres
  9. Old Fire 91,000 acres

Notable Fires

  • Sawtooth Complex 61,000 acres
  • Esperanza Fire 40,000 acres Memorial

By contrast the largest wildfires in modern day Oregon history are–

Year/Fire Name/Number of Acres Burned

  • 1848 Nestucca 290,000
  • 1848 Siletz 800,000
  • 1853 Yaquina 482,000
  • 1863 Silverton 988,000
  • 1868 Coos Bay 296,000
  • 1933 Tillamook 240,000
  • 1936 Bandon 143,000
  • 1939 Saddle Mountain1 90,000
  • 1945 Wilson River/Salmonberry 33,000
  • 1951 North Fork/Elkhorn 33,000
  • 1966 Oxbow 44,000
  • 1987 Silver 97,000

Source; Oregon.gov/fire

Cascade Complex Command Post Fends Siege

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Yesterday I noted the run on the Cascade Fire incident command post (ICP). Here is a series of images taken from the Cascade Complex pages at Inciweb.

Aerial view of the Cascade Complex incident base.

Activity as the fire approaches the camp
(Credit: Bill Paxton, Great Basin IMT1)

(Credit: Bill Paxton, Great Basin IMT1)
(Images credit: Bill Paxton, Great Basin IMT1 and IMT1 Team)

No damage to the ICP resulted from the run. No injuries reported.

*Regarding use of images. These images were posted without direct consent. This goes against this blog’s policy regarding use of proprietary digital property. Permission for use of these images is pending. I decided to use these images in advance of permission to publicize the events occurring not only on this incident but over a widespread area of the Northwest.

Cascade Complex Wilfire Tools In Action

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Take a look at the Cascade Complex Fire header as the Skycrane lifts off.
(video shot Aug. 10)

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5OG1pE004]

Cascade Complex Wildfire

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This a fire to keep an eye on.

For updated information on the Cascade Complex Fire visit Inciweb. Check out some amazing images shot by Incident team members here.

Below is the raw incident data from 1830 hours yesterday;

From the Cascade Fire ICS- 209 form: (via email)

Major problems and concerns (control problems, social/political/economic concerns or impacts, etc.) Relate critical resources needs identified above to the Incident Action Plan.

The Monumental Fire has merged with the Sandy Fire and is showing growth into the Frank Church Wilderness to the south and east of the Sandy Fire. Consistently, during all operational periods, fires have exhibited very active to extreme fire behavior with plume dominated influences during extreme fire growth. Existing hot perimeters around Cascade ICP remains a concern. (my bold emphasis) Division M still poses a threat to the Warm Lake Residential Recreation Area. Due to extreme growth a defensive strategy is in place for multiple improvements ahead of both the Monumental/Sandy and North Fork Fires. Evacuations and new road closures are in effect and the Warm Lake Highway and South Fork Road remains closed. Evacuations in the Warm Lake area remain in effect.

Remarks:

Remarks: The significant increase in overall acres in yesterdays operational period is due to the merging of the Monumental Fire and Sandy Fire. IR priority is the Monumental/Sandy and North Fork Fires, particularly the north ends. IR has not been received for the Monument/Sandy fire east side where improvements are threatened. Monumental 72,759 ac 10% contained, North Fork Fire 36,779 ac 11% contained, Sandy Fire 18,082 ac 27% contained. Whiskey and Tyndall Fires have been consumed by the Monumental/Sandy Fire. Strong inversions continue to delay air operations on both the Monumental and North Fork fires.

Actions planned for next operational period:

Continued structure protection with contingency groups and engagement in defensive mode operations around ICP, Warm Lake, and north of Warm Lake Highway. Establish direct line south from Warm Lake Highway at Trail Creek over Kline Mt. to the NW corner of Warm Lake to protect structures at the west shore of Warm Lake and Kinney Point. Hold burnout along Forest Road 437 and 447 from the Sandy Fire perimeter to Landmark to keep the fire from spreading north in Johnson Creek and threatening additional structures in Johnson Creek. Protect Landmark Guard Station and Deadwood Outfitters. Check southerly spread west of the Deadwood River to mitigate future threats to Elk Creek Guard Station. Assess Pistol Creek Airstrip for protection needs.”

Local media coverage of the fires’ assault on the incident base.


Size/Area
Involved
127,620 ACRES
7: Start Date Time
07/17/2007 1700
% Contained
or MMA
16 Percent
Estimated Costs
to Date
$13,695,816
Injuries
to Date:
4
Expected Containment
Date:
(NONE GIVEN)
Committed Resources:
1,187

*Note: NorthTree Fire Intl. is providing mobile mapping services on the Landmark Complex.*

A tour of the Landmark Fire, East Zone and Cascade Complexes can be downloaded at
http://www.northtreefire.com/intel/fires/idaho/Landmark.kmz

Google Earth virtual tours of the 2007 Idaho Wildfires and more can be found at http://www.northtreefire.com/gis/virtual.php

Smoke Blankets Montana

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There are too many larger fires (over 500 acres) burning in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming to list individually here but check out the Morning Report for a full description of each incident.

One fact that stands out is the Zaca Fire has three times the fire personnel (2,800) of any other fire currently burning except one. The East Zone Complex in Idaho has already burned 162,000 acres with 10% containment and is manned by only 612 firefighters and support staff. The East Zone Complex fire has claimed 12 structures.

Cascade Complex has 1,100 firefighters working 120,000 acres. The Cascade Complex added 20,000 acres overnight and has claimed one structure. By contrast the 5,000 acre Tar Fire burning in grass range land in central California is 90% contained has over 1,000 Cal Fire firefighters mopping up the stubble.

(Sat. Image Rapidfire Gallery)

According to the NICC Morning report site this fire season will surpass acreage burned in the 2006 season (6.3 million) by the end of the weekend.
The ten year average is roughly 5 million acres.

There are currently 23,000 fire personnel assigned to 215 large fires nationwide. Including;
197 Helicopters
15 Air takers (?)
1,231 Five person fire engines
529 Twenty person fire crews
5,500 + Overhead

Zaca Fire Maps & Satellite Photos

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Back on July 27 the Zaca Fire was stalled in the 40,000 acre range as the head of the fire looked to be moving generally southward towards populated areas.

Note where they lost the fire on July 27, 28 to where we are today, 65,000 acres and almost three weeks later. It’s easy to play keyboard quarterback but you have to ask why that was allowed to happen. A lot of prime Federal wilderness has gone up in smoke because of what might be considered tactical missteps.
Considering there has been an average of one firefighter injury per day on the Zaca it’s fair to start questioning current policy for fighting fire in wilderness designated areas.

(Maps; Inciweb.org)

More Satellite images from NASA and associated government offices.
(click to enlarge photos)

Image taken on 8/14 credit RapidFire

Zaca Fire satellite image taken August 7

Bee Columnist Jabs State On DC-10 Supertanker

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The Sacramento Bee’s veteran political columnist Dan Walters got it all wrong in his recent piece questioning the motivations behind the Cal Fire’s contracting of the DC-10 Supertanker. He tries to draw a parallel to contracts for other aircraft made under the Davis administration to the Supertanker contract Governor Schwarzenegger signed earlier this year.

Walters employs old media tactics in his piece citing unknown and unnamed “rank and file firefighters”;

Some rank-and-file firefighters were dubious, as well, that a plane designed for level, high-altitude flight could perform the low-level maneuvers required of firefighting planes and dubbed it “Air Hummer,” a jab at Schwarzenegger’s favored mode of personal transport.”

I doubt that but then again he can write what he likes, true or not. His readership will believe there are some “rank and file firefighters” running around questioning the need for such a tool true or not. Walters writes for the Sac Bee and is read by the hundreds of politicos in the capital city. A fair percentage of state level politicians read his word as fact and form opinion based on those slim facts.

These are the same people who fund Cal Fire.

Had Walters wanted to be fair he would have researched the issues surrounding the current state of firefighter aircraft nationwide. The Feds grounded the C-130 force due to a crash in 2002 and there are simply not enough (3,000 gallon capacity) P-3A/P-3B “Aerostar” Orion’s to go around.

The decision by Governor Schwarzenegger and Cal Fire to sign the DC-10 Supertanker was made based on considerable testing and a dose of pragmatism. You can read CDF Director Ruben Grijalva’s reasoning here.

The Chief sums up the Tanker 910 issue in his final sentence.

“The public safety, firefighter safety, and pilot safety issues, while not immediately measurable, may also be significant.”

Nowhere in Dan Walters column was firefighter safety or any of the environmental (acreage saved) concerns mentioned.
Hopefully if the California Assembly or Senate ever debate this issue they read a little bit further than their favorite local columnist.

Tanker 910 Fact Sheet

Emerging Trend, Fire News In Espanol

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I can’t figure why Inciweb is generating web pages in Spanish (scroll down). Especially pages on the Zaca Fire which is currently burning away from the upscale (English speaking) communities once threatened by the fire. I saw the first evidence of insertion of Spanish language in May during a press conference from the lines of the Griffith Park Fire where L.A. Mayor Villaraigosa basically did a two language Q and A.

Amazing and totally unnecessary but I sense their is no turning back!

Something even more amazing is the staffing of Zaca Fire information kiosks in 19 separate locations from Carpenteria to Goleta. Now you have to understand the demographics in Santa Barbara and the surrounding communities. Even the two homeless guys that live on State Street can walk into the library and get Internet access. Radio, Television and the local newspapers are covering this incident 24/7!
I would like to know if anyone is actually driving to these kiosks.
I would like to know if anyone is actually reading the foreign language fire information pages.

I think people dream up ways to spend taxpayer money.

Zaca Fire Satellite Images & Fire Summary

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Image from MODIS; click this link for a detailed view of smoke from 8/13.

Image from August 12

Image from August 10
July 10 Zaca Fire perimeter at 10,000 acres (Map- Inciweb.org)

August 13 Zaca Fire perimeter at 100,000 acres


Size/Area
Involved
101,472 ACRES

Injuries
to Date: 25

Current Weather Conditions
Wind Speed: 5 mph Temperature: 72
Wind Direction: NE Relative Humidity: 29

% Contained
or MMA
44 Percent ( Down from 67% August 11)

Estimated Costs
to Date
$69,244,435

Remarks:
Lve Oak Zone: This incident status summary reflects the percentage of containment line completed and containment line to build, for the planned strategy of direct and indirect control lines. Richardson Zone: The two Type 1 or Type 2 IA crews listed in block 27 are needed to replace crews timing out. Total personnel on the Richardson Zone are 875. Combined – The Acres, line to build, cost, and structures threatened/lost are the combined total. The break down is as follows: Acres – Live Oak-83,894 Richardson-17,578. Line to build – Live Oak-14 miles, Richardson-10 miles. Cost – Live Oak-64,400,000 Richardson-4,844,435 Structures threatened – Live Oak-515 Richardson-80

Incident pilot Desiree Horton provides interesting insights in her blog yesterday;

“Looks more like a wind shift that turned this fire around. It’s now blowing in a different direction but that can always change.

So far I’ve done plenty of recons and there is talk of PSD. Sounds like this fire is going to reach the Day Fire as anticipated, so when it gets closer to the 33 in Ojai I guess we are going to try and head it off with some back fire. The rumor is we are going to burn some 100,000 acres or so.”

DC-10 Supertanker On Scene–Zaca Fire

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Thirty days and $64 million into the fight and someone finally rang the phone for the game ender. The Santa Maria Times ran a piece today on the Zaca Fire with a photo of the aircraft and this;

“A large jet-powered DC-10 air tanker made four round trips from Victorville Sunday, and flew deep into the Dick Smith Wilderness, where it dropped two miles worth of retardant over the parched terrain along the rural jeepway. The DC-10 carries up to 12,000 gallons of fire-muffling liquid – four times the capacity of the traditional air tankers. Each of the DC-10 loads can coat about eight football fields.”

(Thank you to commenter on previous post)

DC-10 Supertanker To Zaca Incident……..?

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With Inciweb.org down again SBCFire has stepped up to provide fire updates and within their report today we read;

“Managers may use the high capacity (12,000 gallons) DC-10 aircraft this morning. Over 30 aircraft are working the fire.”

Recall these lines from CalFire/CDF Director Ruben Grijalva who I quote in this post July 15 describing the capabilities of the DC-10 Supertanker;

“The DC-10 laid down a continuous line of retardant more than fifty feet wide and .7 to .8 miles long per drop. It would require ten to twelve drops from the S2T to equal the length, and extreme accuracy from the pilots to match the continuity of line. The probability of gaps in the S2T line is very high and the width of the DC-10s drop could not be duplicated…”

This tool should have been up in the air much sooner than this. Surely someone had to have been lobbying to get it in play. Estimated costs to date for the Zaca Wildland Fire exceed $64,000,000 and the containment date of September 7 is still advertised. This incident is tracking to cost in excess of $100 million.

At about $40,000 per day, plus $10,000 per operating hour with the capacity to do the work of 10 S2T’s per drop you have to ask why any barriers that existed barring this important tool were not overcome weeks ago!!

* In the FWIW department. If you want to get to the bottom of who effectively killed the 747 Supertanker project and turned that amazing firefighting weapon into a plug horse cargo delivery vehicle it’s Pat Norbury, U.S. Forest Service National Aviation Operations officer.

Wills For Heroes

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Wills For Heroes is nicely summed up in an article on Daily Comet. The generous people at Wills For Heroes donate time assisting firefighters and other first responders draft wills.

How nice is that?

From Wills For Heroes pages;

“The Wills for Heroes is the brainchild of Anthony Hayes, a partner at Nelson Mullins Riley and Scarborough, LLP, in Columbia, South Carolina. Wills for Heroes began shortly after September 11, 2001, with Anthony’s email to the City of Columbia Fire Department asking what lawyers could do to help that department. An Assistant Chief pulled together a random sample of fifteen fire fighters for a discussion of their needs. During a one-hour meeting, ideas on various topics were exchanged; however, it was clear that the best way to provide services to the majority of the department would be to offer free estate planning services.”

“….Since June 2005, the Arizona Wills for Heroes program has prepared over 2,100 Wills in 10 of Arizona’s 15 Counties. Over 160 attorneys have contributed well over at over 50 Wills for Heroes events. Arizona’s program was recently honored with the Outstanding “Service to the Public” award by the American Bar Association Young Lawyers Division for bar associations with 3,000 to 8,000 members.”

Firefighter Nation; Social Network For Fire and EMS

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“The Social Network for Firefighters, EMS, Rescue, & Responders.”

That’s the tag line for the new social networking site Firefighternation.com.

From their FAQ’s

“Firefighter Nation is a networking project by Dave Iannone, the founder and former publisher of Firehouse.com. The project is not affiliated with Dave’s former employer (which owns Firehouse.com) nor his current employer (Red 7 Media). Dave has over 20 years experience in the fire/rescue service with the Hyattsville (Md) Volunteer Fire Department.”

Firefighter Nation employs smart use of technology from Ning. Good luck to Dave, It’s a very timely introduction of fire service to social networking. Firefighter owned and run as well!

Firefighter Blog is honored to be included on the content headlines site.

Visit Firefighter Nation for Firefighting EMS and Rescue

Fire Related Domain Fetches $32,500

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According to DnJournal the domain FireEngines.com fetched over $32k in a recent auction.

Being a follower of domain market I am surprised by how much this domain went for. Will the new owners keep the site as a refined Splog, (spam blog) or fill it with useful content?
On that note I have the name Firefighting.us for sale (currently sitting in Splog form). It would be nice to develop the name but it would require a small team of qualified coders and content contributors, seed money etc.

It would be nice to have a site similar to leading fire news portal Firehouse.com. Firehouse is corporate owned and operated, while this is not a bad thing it would be nice to see a nice fire related portal owned and run by firefighters.

Back to FireEngines.com, seeing how this domain name commanded such a premium imagine the price truly premium names like Firefighting.com, Firefighter.com, FirePhotos.com or FireNews.com are worth.

Great Hinckley Firestorm; History As a Reminder

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I caught a column in our local paper this Sunday written by Daniel James Brown. Daniel is the Author of “Under a Flaming Sky,” a book detailing the historic Hinckley Fire, a fire that took the life of his great grandfather.

Daniel suggests we can expect more wildland fires like the Angora Fire due to expansion of the wildland urban interface.

It’s inevitable another town or village will succumb to fire. It happened in Hinckley and happened in San Diego County in 2003 when the Cedar Fire claimed thousands of homes. The devastating Aspen Fire burned 84,000 acres and claimed almost 400 homes in the community of Summerhaven Arizona on in 2003. The fire was fueled by a policy that prohibited the removal of even downed and dead wood.

One of my best friends, a retired CDF fire captain, a true warrior and one of the best in the business (ever) believes the town of Cambria California is setting itself up for disaster due to the tree hugger crowd refusing to allow thinning. The town I fear will burn is Oakhurst California. Oakhurst is not populated by reactive environmentalists, people can generally thin at will, their problem is topographical considerations. It sits in a bowl, few roads in or out and many inhabitants are new to the mountains and possess very little knowledge about fire.

There are no links available to Daniels article, an oddity these days. I plan to read Under a Flaming Sky someday soon. History teaches us lessons, we don’t always listen.

Zaca Fire News Briefs

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Satellite view of the Zaca Fire via Google Maps. I’d like to know how this is done.

Criminal charges brought on Zaca and other recent California fires.

Via Inciweb this fire progression map from August 6.

Click to Enlarge

Information as of 0600 August 8
Zaca Facts:
Estimated Costs
to Date
$54,700,000
Size/Area
Involved
72,050 ACRES
% Contained
or MMA
68 Percent
Expected Containment
Date: 09/07/2007
Injuries
to Date: 14


Given the current constraints, when will the chosen management strategy succeed?
With the West wind transitioning to a North wind the current strategy will be challenged. With the success of the firing operations on 8/7/07 the fire should remain North of the Camuesa road.

Remarks:
A Type I team, CIMT-5 (Dietrich) is will assume command of the Richardson Zone at 0600 today (8/8/07). CIIMT-2 (Molumby) will continue to command the Live Oak Zone. The two teams have been working together to insure a seamless transition. An Area Command Team (Waterbury) has been activated to coordinate the large amount of resources committed to the area. Beginning with today’s 1800, 209 will be a combination of the Richardson and Live Oak Zones

So much overhead for a wilderness fire.

Zaca Fire Video Timeline

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Found on YouTube is this very nice timeline of the Zaca Fire taken between 2:00 pm and 4:00 pm on August 4. It’s clear now why the command team at the time put out the evacuations.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w07xyvvLaUk]

For fun I had to throw in this video. How much would the Russian company operating this beast rent it out for?

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db7QPk7GFJM]

Zaca Fire Management Team Change

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Watch the containment date (September 7) get moved up now!

From the Incident 209 this morning:

“Central Coast Team 7 (Smith) and National Incident Management Organization (Gelobter) are preparing to transition to Type I- California Interagency Incident Management Team 2 (Molumby)at 0600 on Monday August 6.”

Fire stats;
Size/Area
Involved
56,200 ACRES

% Contained
or MMA
70 Percent

Expected Containment
Date: 09/07/2007

Line to Build
36
Miles

Estimated Costs
to Date
$47,100,000 (Ridiculous!)

Start Date Time
07/04/2007 1053